The drama between Ramzes and Illidan. What is happening?

TL;DR

  • Mid lane role dispute between ex-teammates escalated into full-scale personal warfare
  • Accusations included match-fixing, cocaine addiction, and unethical team management
  • Legal threats emerged over slander and honor protection claims
  • Conflict reveals deeper issues in professional Dota 2 player relationships
  • Incident demonstrates how in-game conflicts can spill into real-world professional damage

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Evgenii Efimov

October 28, 2021, 04:27 SGT

The Dota 2 competitive scene became captivated by an intense public confrontation between former Virtus.pro teammates Roman “RAMZES666” Kushnarev and Ilya “IllidanSTR” Pivtsaev. This comprehensive analysis examines every stage of their escalating disagreement and its broader implications for professional gaming relationships.

The conflict originated during a ranked match when both players contested the mid lane position. Illidan had repeatedly called the role, but Ramzes immediately selected Ember Spirit, creating immediate tension. Publication restrictions require editing of explicit Russian language content from the original screenshots.


Illidan: so

Ramzes: I wanted to play Ember

Illidan: I gave the role 10 times in a row

Ramzes: I have a higher rank

The exchange quickly deteriorated as Ramzes labeled Illidan both ‘cancer’ and ‘an inadequate,’ signaling the transition from gameplay dispute to personal attack.


Ramzes: Illidan) You better win vs just one time in an official game

Illidan: I don’t want to play

Ramzes: man, who are you?


Ramzes: chill, bro)

Illidan: who are you?

Ramzes: Why are you so angry?

Illidan: an official) show me your prize money

Ramzes: wait

Following Illidan’s realization of his opponent’s identity, the confrontation escalated dramatically with serious allegations extending far beyond gameplay disagreements. Content moderators have substituted offensive terminology while preserving the original meaning and intensity.

I could say a couple of things on stream about you, Roxbury [strip club in Moscow] cocaine fool. You speak about officials, ye I beat you a couple of times. And you wrote some shit on prodota [Russian-language website and forum]. Yes, I am cancer, but I am at least not cocaine-addicted. It is better to play worse than die at the age of 30 because of cocaine addiction. And it is also better than kicking an analyst from the team to split his salary.

Guy, you are finished. Let’s be honest. You play better, but everything else in your life is trash. You can’t even answer me. I am fed up with you speaking shit behind backs and then just saying you are joking. Go to hell!

Man, your vocabulary is like 500 words. Why do you say something about adequateness? Have you ever seen your own actions? <…> At least I did not do 322. I have chosen my own way.

By the way, why didn’t you delete Dota? You did promise. You are just a freaking hyena that could only bad-mouth ones who are not that successful in their careers. You never say anything to ones who are better, and this is so funny. You are just a toady. <…> Well, maybe you say how did you 322? Nothing to say?

Every time I hear him, I start to hotter. He is such a worm. Did you hear that he declined nothing I said? Absolutely nothing! Make your own conclusions. I always wanted to make a spit in his face. Figuratively of course, not in real life.

I cannot play normally when he is by my side. He is just the worst crud ever. I will never be in normal relations with him, no matter what.

There will be no situation to force me to make peace with him and treat him nicely. Because I know he is a freaking worm that starts treating people like shit if he does not need them. Ask Iceberg or anyone else.

He is an absolute toady who cannot bark at anyone who is better in Dota than him because he got no character.

I do not judge his lifestyle, but since he opens his mouth, it needs to be shut every time. His speaking skills are like if I would fight Iceberg. And I would even have more chances there. He should forget how to talk and just play Dota. There is nothing he can do in his life beyond this and will never be.

Rather than responding within the game client, Ramzes took the conflict to Twitter, shifting the battleground to public social platforms.

Dear Ilya, before saying anything offensive to others, remember that you need proof, not only untrue rumors. I didn’t think it will bother anyone but the worms dug it out.

Former Virtus.pro manager Roman Dvoryankin publicly supported Ramzes in the dispute.

I do think that the accusation in matchfixing could be judged from a legal perspective as slander and/or protection of honor and dignity. In case of allowance of a claim, money could be spent on charity.

Professional gaming conflicts often follow predictable escalation patterns that begin with gameplay disagreements and progress to personal attacks. The Ramzes-Illidan dispute demonstrates several critical aspects of esports psychology:

Role Priority vs Skill Priority: The conflict highlights the tension between players who prioritize role calling (Illidan’s “I gave the role 10 times” argument) versus those who emphasize current skill level and rank (Ramzes’s “I have higher rank” position). This represents a fundamental philosophical divide in competitive gaming approaches.

Professional Boundary Violations: When disputes transition from in-game mechanics to personal lifestyle accusations, the professional relationship becomes irreparably damaged. Substance abuse allegations and match-fixing claims create professional consequences that extend far beyond the original disagreement.

Social Media Escalation: Moving conflicts from private game clients to public platforms like Twitter dramatically increases the stakes and potential career damage.

For players navigating similar situations, establishing clear communication protocols and utilizing neutral mediators can prevent minor disputes from escalating into career-damaging public confrontations.

The incident serves as a cautionary tale about how quickly professional relationships can deteriorate when conflicts are handled improperly, emphasizing the importance of professional conduct even during heated competitive moments.

Action Checklist

  • Establish role call protocols before matches begin to prevent mid-game disputes
  • Use in-game communication tools rather than public social media for initial conflict resolution
  • Document disagreements with screenshots but avoid immediate public sharing
  • Seek mediation from team managers or neutral third parties before escalation
  • Consult legal professionals before making public accusations that could constitute slander

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